Course length, driver optimization, and course strategy are three key components to improving the performance of the AMA. If it was published in a journal as well, please could you direct me to where I could find it. Stay up to date and receive free notifications of new posts by email. The LDA guys can't hang with the short games and are wildly sporadic with their tee shots, hence why they get multiple tries. Does that make sense? Club Speed 113 mph Ball Speed 166 mph Attack Angle -1 deg Launch Angle 12 deg Spin Rate 2298 rpm I do agree the AMA should be playing much shorter courses than most presently do. Why gather data from an elite course where people line up to play when that is far from representative of what most people are doing? Its important to turn your body to get that extra speed. [/quote] Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. And for those golfers looking to make more substantial improvements to their game, the TrackMan Combine provides a roadmap for the improvement journey and accurate, immediate feedback at all checkpoints / stops along the way. I think you wish you hit it further. Bump up your confidence around the greens. I would guess those numbers are pretty much all-out, perfect contact, carry distances. I feel pretty confidant in saying that those aren't his stoc I genuinely believe Vokeys make me a better bunker player, the SM8s changed my bunker game and these are just as good. For example for a 170 yard shot into the green a quick glance at his iron yardages shows he could decide to play either a three-quarter 8-iron or try to hit a 9-iron as far as he can his max distance for that club. It sounds like Sophie has found her new fairway wood Titleist's brand new fairway model is seriously hot, New HydraZip face provides 43% more spin in wet conditions. This instant gratification can be achieved through the 30-45 minute TrackMan Combine process! Yes! also his AoD on the stinger. For years, Justin has quietly used his fame and financial wherewithal to help many. [quote name='baseballfrk8998' timestamp='1364403832' post='6707431'] 1700 Broadway, Floor 29, New York, NY 10019, 2020 Justin Thomas. [quote]I don't measure my driver distance. [/quote] Spin Rate is on the high side, which also could indicate an off-center strike, and probably a negative attack angle both will shorten your distance. As you can guess my improvement has now become dependent on driver efficiency and distance. People that take hole distance & distance on approach to calculate driving distance is what's funny. 2023 Arnold Palmer Invitational - Discussion and Links to Photos, 2023 The Honda Classic - Discussion and Links to photos, 2023 Genesis Invitational - Discussion and Links to photos, 2023 Waste Management Phoenix Open - Discussion and Links to Photos, 2023 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am - Discussion and Links to all photos, 2023 HSBC Women's World Championship (Mar 02 - 05), Byron Morgan best for your balls DH89 & the elusive DBCM 8802, TWO PUTTERS - ONE POST. They make me giddy and want to practice my short game all the time. Learn to play your game, but keep pushing yourself where sensible and on the range, and youll enjoy your round more and start playing much more consistent golf. And this is about DJs average big drive when he swings harder, at around 125 mph. I dont want my Vokeys to look different to the past designs, I barely want them to perform differently either as you want reliability around the greens. My question is my average D is +5.3, 6I is +3.5 and 8I is +2.1. You just have to be fit correctly and learn how to deliver the club better to the ball, and i shoot low 70s and i hit the ball 245 yards with ZERO roll in Thailand so it can be done. Distance to Apex 195.9 We've enjoyed playing this great game with friends, family and competitors from all over the world for many years. [/quote] Especially the average driving distance data. Can anyone give me any insight of what all these numbers mean? A Step by Step Guide, Acceleration Graph of Hips, Chest, Arms, and Clubhead in a Pro Golf Swing. Going the Distance? That smash factor surprises me a bit. There are golfers out there who are scratch only hitting the ball 200-250. My teachers are always trying to get me to change my swing to generate club head speed, but this consistently leaves me frustrated and physically sore. That is why you will find some pros wedges measured up to 0.5 or even 0.25 when listed and it is also likely that some of the actual strengths of the wedge lofts they use may in reality be stronger (i.e. The "you have to be a tour player to hit a long way" mentality is comical to say the least. Jordan Spieth WITB 2021 (May Charles Schwab Challenge), Jordan Spieth WITB: 2020 Farmers Insurance Open, Jordan Spieth winning WITB: 2022 RBC Heritage, WITB Time Machine: Jordan Spieths 2015 John Deere Classic winning WITB. [b]XHP 3-Deep (13)- 7.3X @ 43.5 I hit a green today which was 163 so pulled a 6 iron landed on back part of the green 10 yds past the flag. More importantly, however, Justins time on the course where his mother and father both worked taught him about responsibility, passion, ethics, camaraderie, and hard work. Carry Efficiency 2.51 The wedge glided through the turf and nipped the ball at impact, resulting in reliable soft strikes. ;9#I 'S2G4Mi]JE That's my opinion at least. However don't be overwhelmed, the good news is that there is only one set up choice in the PW, two in the GW and multiple in SW and LW due to the wider range of shorter shots you play with these clubs. The difference in a good amateur player and a touring professional is typically going to be short game, endurance, and that space between the ears. I appreciate your thoughts, great article. This put him near the bottom of the pack. As the previous poster said Im 43 so wont be Bubba Watson anytime soon. Elite level Trackman Golf Coaching from Expert & Award winning coaches, Scott and Jamie Howarth. You can watch my full review via the Golfalot YouTube channel here: If you like what you see, please make sure you SUBSCRIBE to our YouTube channel to see all Golfalot video reviews and features first. When we compare these stock yardages for irons between the pros we get a consistent view of yardage which we can accurately compare across the players. I went into a facility with Trackman launch monitors and have attached Launch Angle 11.28 any 7 iron data ? Sorry for the ramble. My hunch its even bigger for AFA vs AMA? WebSee how The Honda Classic Justin Thomas Trackman numbers look https://blog.trackmangolf.com/justin-thomas-trackman-numbers/ I was advised to switched to the 8 bounce as my impact is shallower than when I was previously fitted for my SM8s. NOW AVAILABLE: GolfWRX G/Fore Hats and Holderness & Bourne Polos! With the AMA averaging 30 yards less than his potential, there is a lot of room for improvement. My 8 iron 190yards 5iron 252 yards Pw is 150yrds And loft 56 at 120yrds Loft 110 yrds How do i control the power to less distance? Shafts: True Temper Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400. Once you except your limitations, you can get out and enjoy the game we LOVE instead of loathing it. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]8.5* Driver[/background][/size][/color] Yes, typically very short drivers of the ball are better iron players or wedge players. I agree with you 100%. I guess if you don't play with guys that are good, it's understandable. What I find funny is the number of people on here that think it's ridiculous that an amateur golfer claims to have similar numbers to a professional. Please limit the number of items and requests. I remember they had the analysis of his 8 iron that he hit at firestone from like 200+ out in a golf digest or something a couple years ago don't remember any of the numbers unfortunately tho M2, maybe 915 FD 913 HD 712u 3 714 AP2 4-p SM5 53, 59 Circa62 knock it close Advanced Members 6.2k Feedback 0 0 0 Total Rating 0% Posted hard to say for sure who was at fault in the beginning i am 7 handicap play with a friend who is 26-28 i play blue he plays white even when an extra player joins me on the blue he still plays white. I think it would be awesome to see if any of the numbers change due to the new developments. FULL GUIDE By Age, Handicap etc. Callaway XR Pro (20) Diamana White 90X I bet a lot of my tee shots find the rough though. I think you wish you hit it further. *Normalized data was used to calculate approach shot distances. WebIn 2018, Justin was just the 21st player to ever reach #1 in the Official World Golf Rankings following his WGC win in Memphis. My average club separation is about 15 yards. Total Distance Efficiency 2.484. More photos from the event here. Top 100 Player Analysis. Even my 4 iron ball speed max is 137 and Im getting 235 yards. Impacting the game through junior golf programs has always been an important part of his charitable giving. How Far Should I Hit My Hybrids? All too many golfers go to the course and hit every shot in the hope its the best shot theyve ever hit. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] It will make it a lot easier to give a qualified answer if we have all the numbers :-). Clear editor. I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. Driver: Cobra Amp Cell Pro (8.5 degrees) Shaft: Aldila RIP Phenom 3-wood: Titleist 906F4 (13.5 degrees) Shaft: Aldila NV 7-wood: Michael Hopper whats in the bag accurate as of the WM Phoenix Open. Justin is committed to showing benevolence and grace to children in need, with the goal of bolstering their confidence, strengthening their determination, and allowing them great possibilities. Ha, okay. Driver: GolfWRX is on the ground in Orlando ahead of the 2023 Arnold Palmer Invitational at Bay Hill Club & Lodge. Hes learned nothing Olympic legend launches scathing attack on Tiger Woods over tampon apology, Golf fans left bemused following bizarre Jim Nantz blunder, Best driver 2023: Expert club fitters recommend the best driver for your swing speed, An UP-CLOSE look at Tiger Woods famous Scotty Cameron putter, David Feherty ridiculed for Greg Norman comment during LIV broadcast, Tour pro says LIV would be done if Brooks Koepka returned to PGA Tour, TOUR REPORT: McIlroy switches drivers during Genesis Invitational (plus Tigers iron change). What is evident is you obviously don't play with good amateur players. Because of the trends and correlations found in the TrackMan Combine data, it is possible to calculate the proximity to hole for nearly any handicap or approach distance with high confidence. TaylorMade Stealth+ 8 w/ PX Handcrafted Prototype EvenFlow Black 65 6.5, TaylorMade SIM ROCKET 14.5 w/ PX Handcrafted EvenFlow Black 75 6.5, TaylorMade SIM 18 Tour Issue w/ PX Handcrafted EvenFlow Black 75 6.5, TaylorMade SIM 2 Max Rescue 3-19 w/ PX RDX Smoke 90 6.5, TaylorMade SIM 2 Max Rescue 4-22 w/ PX RDX Smoke 90 6.5, Srixon ZX7 6-AW w/ Nippon Modus Tour125 Stiff The 56 to 62 grooves are wider and shallower for chipping and lob shots. Impressive Combine Score by a 12 year old boy, How to maximize player performance with small changes. You're delusional if you think any amateur on WRX that claims to have similar numbers to the longer pros thinks they are also as good as a tour pro. By funding programming and fulfilling requests of those in need, they are committed to showing compassion, displaying kindness, and making a difference in the world. I'm not on here to impress anyone with my driving distance but that doesn't mean I didn't hit it that far. Other top articles related to this topic: Graeme Hay is the owner of GolfingFocus.com. I also play at a local par 3 course which holds the junior par 3 championship and I have shot 7 under around the par 3 course. I carry my 8 iron about 158 yards when Im hitting it good (see above). My taylermade aero burner average distance is 330 yards on a good day 364 yards. As such, this article will focus on the performance of the average male amateur (AMA). [/quote] get up and down 3 out of the 5 times you miss the green makes all the difference. Whatever helps you sleep at night my friend. I played Monday and hit my 1st 3 drives over 300 and in the fairway. On average, all of the projected distances were 50-70 yards further without the slice. I still feel these are better players clubs for 15 handicappers or below as they are bladed heads which require you to deliver the club consistently and strike the centre of the face. I think this is very interesting but misleading. You've given me a good laugh for two days now. I like to look at his averages on the tour seems to be more realistic data that is actually in play on tour. Because winning money, titles, and shooting low scores doesnt involve all that much power hitting, especially with the irons. And also wondering how LPGA fits into this chart. The longest player hits it 320 yards on average and the longest recorded drive in 2022 is 460 yards. [/quote] I seem to have the same speed as pro women and they are playing the same distances that I am but scoring way way lower with a game built from precision over speed. And a good part of the reason for that is the average golfer often watches with wonder as the best players on the PGA GolfingFocus.com was created simply as a place to allow us to try and find answers to common golfing questions asked, and problems faced, by all standards of golfer. The data has been collected through the TrackMan Combine from over 10,000 golfers of all levels from around the world. I don't measure my driver distance. Top 100 PGA Tour Player Guide (2021). Little higher launch, still low spin into the wind, and much easier to swing day in and day out. On the longest drive, the projected distance(without the slice) was 332 yards. Most of the guys I play/practice with are +2 to 5 handicaps. Lets consider the (average) approach shot distance that the AMA will have on an average par 4. You can follow GolfWRX on Twitter @GolfWRX, Facebook and Instagram. [/quote] 915 FD G.O.A.T.? Trap draw? That's not Justin, that's Johnny. Have a look at his driver and 6 iron numbers below: Driver 6 It doesn't take a genius to figure that one out. On average PGA Tour pros hit a 3-wood a carry distance of 249 yards. I bet your average golfer on your average course doesnt hit more than 160-175. [/quote] Shafts: True Temper Project X PXi, Driver: TaylorMade Stealth 2 Plus (9 degrees @ 8) There is no age or nationality restriction for the AMA. Im a 9 handicap wanting to get into the low single digits. On top of that it drew me feeling like unless I can hit it 250 every time and at least shoot in the low 90s from the Blue I might as well just give golf up. But then on the next hole when they come back down the hill with the wind behind them, they all go 340. Sorry that I can not be of better help right now. People like you that rant about longer amateurs is what makes for good laughs. I wonder what his user name is on WRX.. Both wedges I could spin and release depending on the swing I put on the shot, I was especially a fan of the lob wedge chip shot which stopped on the second bounce. Total Distance Efficiency 2.484 You cannot paste images directly. In 2019, he launched the Justin Thomas Foundation, aimed to help military families, junior golf and children in need. Justin is that really you?? Circa62, Tiger also ranks 125th on tour in total driving efficiency. DShawn Johnson Brooks Koepka, winner of the US Open 2017 and 2018. show the real time hit - then after the shot replay it with the numbers/tracer. [/quote] The consistency of impact through the sand was staggering, I seemed to take the exact same amount of sand and impact location every time. Spin Rate 2,645.8 So just to confirm what we are indeed up against we took a detailed look at just how far the top pros are hitting their clubs. Angle of attack, club speed, path, club face. [/quote] But i attribute most of that to playing with a best friend who was a scratch golfer and showed me theres no need to take longer than 2 hours to play 18 holes. The following chart shows average handicap versus average club speed. Artisan MT Grind (58) DG S400 [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364403614' post='6707409'] I think you wish you hit it further. A lot of guys come from athletic backgrounds too, and maybe took up the game at an older age. As club speed increases, those golfers tend to have lower handicaps. 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The materials are superb and generate fantastic feedback on the strike through the head, shafts, grip and into your hands. WebPGA Tour players hit their driver a total of 296.6 yards on average with a carry distance of 284.3 yards according to official 2022 Shotlink data. Join the Thomas family to help fund important programming for children in need, junior golf and military families. I'm BARELY 250 off the tee, but I will mop the floor with most from 125 in While golf has given Justin a career he thoroughly enjoys, he knows the life lessons golf can provide. I then picked up the lob wedge, historically as a two wedge player I need high versatility with this club as it is 6 degrees more lofted than my 52. Imagine being on the practice ground with Justin Thomas or Nelly Korda week in week out. I, and many amateur golfers I play with on a regular basis, have the ability to hit the ball a long way. This analysis seems to be for elite athletes. It is vital for them to know exactly how far they hit their wedges with a variety of different types of shots because feel is so important from those short distances, especially at the top level of the game, where a yard or two can make the difference between winning or losing a tournament. The following graph shows a plot of the AMAs shots from 160 yards. Top 100 Player Analysis, drivers and fairway woods the top 100 PGA Tour players, How Do Pros Hit the Ball So Far? The new Vokey SM9 wedges has a focus on this exact shot by placing weight higher in the toe. [/quote] [quote name='jeffrey08250' timestamp='1364360280' post='6704435'] Tiger hits his 3-iron a carry distance of 240 yards on average while his 4-iron goes 225 yards and 5-iron 210 yards. Do you suppose my distance is bs? It's not the length that makes a pro. By Handicap, Age & Swingspeed, Should Your Driver Match Your Woods? Carry Distance 302.9 Have a look at his driver and 6 Top 50 Pros Analysis. it would be great to see this information on a broadcast on a couple of hole locations - combined with protracer. WebBut he picked up 25 yards for elevation, 25 for wind, and another 45 for extra roll. Hamish777, March 26, 2013 in WRX Club Techs. Book a Session for only R500 to get your Swing Analysis. Couldn't of said it any better myself. Your previous content has been restored. [quote name='J.W.' The average USGA handicap for male golfers has been between 14.0 and 15.0 since 2005. I take most info in many sections of this board with a grain of salt. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364404259' post='6707501']